Some Naturalist Anectdotes

Supernaturalist: But the (insert religious text) says -
Naturalist: I don't really care what the (same religious text) says
Supernaturalist: But the (same text) is (affiliated diety's/dieties') message to the world
Naturalist: How do you know that?
Supernaturalist: Well, because it's written in the (text).

See the problem there?

Naturalist: I don't believe in (diety/other supernatural phenomena)
Supernaturalist: Well what do you believe in?
Naturalist: Well for starters, existence, the existence of life, the power of science and knowledge, humanity, human ingenuity, proven facts - from evolution to genocide in the name of (supernatural phenomena), cruelty, kindness, consciousness, the big bang, the theory of relativity as far as it's been proven, space time, art, literature, exploration, death, and birth from conception.
Supernaturalist: -----

All I've ever gotten in response to that is... oh.

Supernaturalist: But what about hope? How can you live with uncertainty regarding what follows life?
Naturalist: Freely, fully, justifiably, affectionately, genuinely, with personal motivation as opposed to dictations from (supernatural phenomena, dieties, and texts), with morals derived from evidence, with good will from within myself, without discrimination, peacefully, and happily.

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I'll worry about what happens after I die when I'm dead. My understanding is that human sapience is caused by chemical reactions somewhere in the cranium and those cease when our blood stops pumping. After living a long and fulfilling life who can honestly ask for more?
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Respond as you see fit.